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rohorn
12-18-2004, 05:58 PM
Here's my bike with the ADA head on it. I'm very impressed with it. It allows you to do all sorts of interesting things to the engine.

Now it needs an air filter, reed kit, and pipe........

GopedRicer
12-18-2004, 10:26 PM
Nice!!!

blah
12-19-2004, 06:00 AM
Here's my bike with the ADA head on it. I'm very impressed with it. It allows you to do all sorts of interesting things to the engine.

Now it needs an air filter, reed kit, and pipe........

Hey, rohorn why'd you get booted from PBP? are you registered at http://www.pocketbikeuniverse.com/portal.php ?

rohorn
12-19-2004, 08:22 PM
Hey, rohorn why'd you get booted from PBP? are you registered at http://www.pocketbikeuniverse.com/portal.php ?

I'll check that forum out - thanks!

I got the boot for, uh, hurting the feelings of a very spoiled and overrated brat. 'Tis a shame.

Since then, my cag was shown to the local PB shop - I was just asked to build high performance engines for customers. Guess which head is going on them.

blah
12-20-2004, 07:44 PM
There's so many brats, which one was it? I asked 3 staff why you were booted and they didn't know. Perm ban! must have let em have both barrels huh?


same head as mine?

rohorn
12-20-2004, 10:10 PM
Same head as yours? I thought I read something somewhere about an Italian scooter head - forgot the details - and I'm probably way off base with that as well.

I'll continue to use the ADA heads. I already have a neat little faceplate fixture which indexs nicely and makes turning the cylinders a breeze. Which means I'll just use the original cylinders. I'm also making my own base spacers.

I was going to make my own heads with offset 'cooling core". The top third or so of the cooling shroud would have to be cut off - and that part of the head would have taken its place. But milling out a pocket for the coil was more work than I wanted, so it's shelved 'til I need more fun making chips than accomplishing something. And I need to get a mill.

Permanent ban? That explains the e-mails I've been getting from people there! They must really want the truth to get out about, uh, lets not talk about that moderator. The other staff guys will never be told why for a good reason. No, it's not the owner. There's another forum where I did go into it - this one isn't it. I like ADA's stuff - I don't want to wear out my welcome here.

One hint - ever see that hilarious "anti-vibration" engine mount in the cag info section?

blah
12-20-2004, 10:43 PM
Yeah,the ADA head is well made and easy to put on, I also have a bunch of japanese and italian scooter heads that will fit nicely, the Millosi one is about the same size as standard but with more more height and fin area. I also have a 5 port cylinder that could probably go out to 50mm, they have good old iron sleeves, still a lot of work involved to make it fit.

I see a lot of products that i could rip the hell out of, i just grin and bear it most of the time. Did you get a chance to see that guys port job? he did some nice boost ports with his rounded end mill but fuxed the exhaust up by leaving a knife edge on it. when i pointed it out the whole thread went crazy, some of these people just don't have a clue. One of the guys described the port work as the "best he's ever seen" and then flamed the hell out of me when i linked him to macdizzy saying the same thing i said about knife edges, i give up.

I know the staff member, what exactly is stopping you from pointing out what was said?

rohorn
12-20-2004, 10:59 PM
I've often wondered if any of the 70cc scooter kits could be reworked/butchered to fit, but - the oversquare running dimensions, as well as just what those parts are going on, has stopped me from pursuing it. Plus, I don't think the local racers would find it funny. Actually, they would, but it just wouldn't be any fun to be on the same track, I would imagine. No sour grapes here!

I actually don't remember that porting post - there are so many bad ones it's just a blur. The flames one gets for trying to illustrate facts is surreal.

You asked for it - you got it (http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=140336)

blah
12-21-2004, 03:41 AM
Yeah, i mentioned it could go to 50mm but i wont be, well not with a 32,33 or 35 crank anyway, I'm not a big fan of over squared engines either. A 70cc kit would have ports too big for even a 35mm crank, you'd have to weld them and that would mean reboring, and if your gonna do that you may as well get the standard bore cyl cause it's the same cyl just bored out 7mm or something like that anyway, this all ofcourse depends on what engine we are talking about though. All this seems a lot of work, i am getting good results with a 40mm piston and a spacer so it's all on the back burner.

Our rules differ from where you are obviously, if someone was crazy enough to bolt a yz490 into a cag frame, they'd let it run just to see what happens :)


Umm, the flames...I can't decide if It's like two fans blowing Sh!t towards each other..or a game of sh!t ping pong? either way there was a lot of sh!t flying around wasn't there.

rohorn
12-21-2004, 06:04 PM
Yeah, but now I no longer have access to their collective wisdom :bigl . I think I'm staying away from all of the lonely and bored brat forums. There's nothing to be learned in any of them, and they don't want to learn anything, either. There are too many real people around here to work with and play - I don't need those morons.

Racing and all that is just starting around here - no real rules yet. So it's still a lot of fun. If you make it faster, everyone else wants to know how they can get the same results rather than whine about it and demand your expulsion. But I'm both surprised and happy with what 40cc with spacer, head, and carb mods can do so far, and I know there's more power to be found. If all goes well, I'll get a datalogger so real differences can be plotted and pointed out. That should be the next best thing to a dyno.

Now the real good news - the local shop ordered ADA heads for me to install. And the owner wants my bike to use as a shop demo, so they can see the results for themselves.