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What’s the best 60 kit?

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  • What’s the best 60 kit?

    Hi All,

    I’m about fed up looking for a 60 conversion kit. Tetra, Skopod, TS. No one makes one anymore (that I can find). So I’m about ready to build my own.

    Tetra uses 460 clutch/cover/flywheel and RC coil
    Skopod used all RC stuff with 460 clutch
    TS uses all 40 stuff
    I also have the factory 60 ignition system, however running without a fan is questionable.

    All “kits” spin the motor the wrong direction (than intended by Zenoah). A fact which I don’t like, but may just stay with due to intake facing front (which is nice for pipe options)

    although I have access to CNC machines, this will most likely be a brute force build due to my own laziness to program the machining. but will most likely be SW modeled, so CNC machining isn’t completely out of the question.

    Which leads me to the conclusion. Which kit has the most optimum design? Least vibration, best ignition, Most compatible with the 60?

    (Also looking to buy a kit, or pieces of one, to save myself some trouble)
    *******Pedding since '02********

  • #2
    Tetra by far the best 60 kit I’ve own

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    • #3
      I've only used skopod kits. I really like them because they are so compact Also, using a smaller, and lighter RC flywheel gives you more rip off the line. Conversely, the engine will also slow down faster upon decel due to less inertia.

      The tetra kit is nice as well. The larger/heavier flywheel will make it slower off the line, but it'll hold speed better. I think that you can't go wrong with either one, but if you want a quick off the line racing ped, the skopod might edge out the tetra.

      Despite both flipping the cylinder, you can sort of 'fix' that problem by cutting the transfer divider. That will improve the scavenging efficiency and get back some power. I have done it, and it seems to make a big difference. My skopod (no reed) with transfer dividers cut did 48-49 mph, which is pretty good considering it had minimal porting done (had a 77b carb + ada 60 pipe). For cutting the divider, just cut the bottom part. it should not be removed completely!
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      • #4
        So just and update on this. I think I did it. THE FIRST EVER FLIPPED 60. And by that I mean running the correct direction.

        Its essentially a tetra but motor facing the correct direction. Already put a call into Dino at Jetpro who is going to build me a custom 60/Rhino. Just some teaser photos next to my TS 60. Engine cover is probably coming off. But the stealthyness is sorta cool....
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        *******Pedding since '02********

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        • #5
          Just finished my 46/40 adaptor plate
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          *******Pedding since '02********

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dsport View Post
            THE FIRST EVER FLIPPED 60. And by that I mean running the correct direction..
            mr tea did it years ago, i also made my own kit and MB has the v2 60 cases all run correct rotation.


            we need pics man.
            My Constitutional Rights Don't End Where Your Feelings Begin

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pedguyman View Post

              mr tea did it years ago, i also made my own kit and MB has the v2 60 cases all run correct rotation.


              we need pics man.
              That’s right! I do recall Mr T’s build (running factory 60 ign). Also MB. For this I was thinking more conversion kit standpoint as this is what it’s intended to be. Unfortunately it may be more compatible with a 40 chassis. I noticed there isn’t much material available on the coil side of the case to support side mounting.

              o well, this it the only one for now, can’t wait to get it together and see it ripp!
              *******Pedding since '02********

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              • #8
                That’s a badass 60 motor and I am looking forward to this build keep it up any more pic of the motor

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                • #9
                  It's a shame that these 60 kits aren't available anymore. So hard to find now.
                  2 Sports and a GSR40

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Turbobox View Post
                    It's a shame that these 60 kits aren't available anymore. So hard to find now.
                    True, it’s not necessarily a demand issue. It’s a profit margin issue combined with demand. Machined parts are expensive to produce, the majority of guys previously making kits were doing them in-house/ or for hookup prices.

                    The adapter components are 2 op parts, requiring 2 setups each and minimum of 6 tools (1/2 EM, m5 tap, drill for tap, drill for clutch side through holes, ball EM for inner fillets, and a 45 EM for chamfer) and I’m probably missing some (for dowel pins etc)

                    The volume is too low for a cast component, and cost is too high for billet.

                    Job shops will charge the same price to produce this $300 adapter as they would a $3000 aerospace or medical component. So farming out these pieces is simply not cost-effective.

                    I have produced CAD models for atleast one style kit (TS) and I’m working on dimensions for the reverse tetra. (Which I believe is a superior design). I also have access to machine tools (aka CNC machines) but I simply don’t have time to justify the profit margins involved with producing these on a larger scale.

                    Not saying I not considering, just that it would come from more of a supporting the community standpoint than a money marking one.
                    *******Pedding since '02********

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                    • #11
                      They do have the mb casereed60 Available to buy too bad it sucks to upload pic cuz I would post up my casereed 60 and it’s the best 60 I’ve own

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Badazzx22 View Post
                        They do have the mb casereed60 Available to buy too bad it sucks to upload pic cuz I would post up my casereed 60 and it’s the best 60 I’ve own
                        There is the MB, Unfortunately the price...personally I and many others cannot justify. +60s are pretty dang fast for a scooter already.
                        *******Pedding since '02********

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                        • #13
                          Hi all..
                          I can say without hesitation...
                          Having the 60 going the correct way with the original ignition, and no fan...
                          Is not a problem at all..
                          It picks up incredibly quick under load..
                          …. J.
                          There is nothing that cannot be fixed with a good cup of Tea.

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                          • #14
                            i used a ts fan adapter and I made my won plate for the other side. got the measurements from DOH and I made a temp let.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pedguyman View Post
                              i used a ts fan adapter and I made my won plate for the other side. got the measurements from DOH and I made a temp let.
                              Probably the first time a TS fan side adaptor has seen one of those strange Chinese fan covers haha. Interesting seeing the CY stuff on there. IMO it’s a superior ignition system vs the 40. What is that billet piece you used for the clutch side?
                              *******Pedding since '02********

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