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  • #16
    Originally posted by pedguy View Post
    Just so it's clear, this is the referring thread where people tried to help jihdi (after he bought the wrong part and still filed a PayPal claim against the seller) and he went on to call every white person ****ing low class scums and white trash etc...... http://www.billetboard.com/showthrea...need-a-picture
    i never bought the wrong part and i never filed a paypal claim against the seller, lol...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jihidi3 View Post
      i never bought the wrong part and i never filed a paypal claim against the seller, lol...
      Regardless, your ****ty attitude and choice to threaten members here was pathetic and totally uncalled for. Some of us take Billet Board very seriously, others come along and couldn't give a **** less about this place, and that's fine. But don't come back here and expect anyone to bend over backwards to help you out. You made threats with terrorists style actions, I couldn't care less about you. Luckily for you Dawman is a really nice guy and is happy to help you out. But you will not be getting any help from me or many other members here. If you intend on staying around here, you better have come back with a different attitude.
      Hell Fab

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      • #18
        These are just some of the motors that will fit and work on an early style BigBoy or V-5, BladeZ, Tanaka Paverunner or EVO2 and 2X scooters that use a 78 mm clutch mount.

        Left to Right....
        1. Active 57cc 4-port with TS head kit
        2. Tanaka 47 cc
        3. Tanaka 40 cc
        4. G43L
        5. Tanaka ??? possibley a 33 cc.
        6. Mistubishi 43
        7. HONDA 31 cc 4-stroke
        Attached Files
        CP......
        HOW we ride today, may determine IF we can ride tomorrow

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jihidi3 View Post
          you mentioned g43 engine, i was actually gonna use that engine on my next build since ddm stocks them now, and also because there are many performance mods that are readily available for the engine through their site / and port work which i believe chris bartolone would be able to take care of that for me since i want to buy the TS reed kit which is currently in stock at ddm and it would need the porting job for proper use. i dont really want to gear higher, just want to experiment and see how well of a setup i can get with this modified g43 setup using a stock 15 tooth sprocket, consistency is really important too. im expecting to get a top speed of at least 32 mph. specific mod lists would be a new g43 engine, ts reed kit, walbro hda carburetor with a venturi of about 15mm since ddm told me the reed kit entry hole is about 16mm, so i figured a 15mm venturi would be perfect. hp filter, port work, i dont really know much about this but i guess chris bartolone should know exactly what to do for me based on my setup, tanaka 3 piece, bladez 3 stage pipe, or any end bleed pipe that fits on a bladez with little to no modification, black magic clutch spring, and thats pretty much it that i can think of. oh and i forgot about the gas tank portion, im gonna mount the original gas tank that goes with this engine, just like grandpaglyn did on his bladez cruz'r with g43 engine.
          If you want a top speed of at least 32 mph. You can do that with no port work. 15 tooth sprocket is 10:1. Just replace the carb with an ADA G43L (GSR40) HP Carb Kit and get a pipe that's for the GSR40.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by GrandpaGlyn View Post
            If you want a top speed of at least 32 mph. You can do that with no port work. 15 tooth sprocket is 10:1. Just replace the carb with an ADA G43L (GSR40) HP Carb Kit and get a pipe that's for the GSR40.
            thanks glyn, i want to still get the reed kit / port work if i get the g43, i want it to be a noticeable improvement from the tanaka 47r that i currently have so its either all or nothing, i dont want to settle for just a pipe and larger carburetor as the whole reason i want to get the g43 is because of how many performance modifications that are readily available ( as of now ) since ddm restocked both the g43 and reed kits, and then il have a nice performing 2 stroke . right now, im doing a top speed of about 30 mph on a tanaka 47r bladez, stock gearing. there is one thing i noticed from one of the posts in gopednation, the thread that said if you wanna run a 60 carb on a gp460, something about the carburetor pop off spring on the hda-48 carburetor making the engine perform boggy at acceleration or lower end speeds / take off, and that you would need to change it to a different one, this, i can relate because the tanaka 47r seemed to do the same as well, you have to gently press the throttle and gradually bring it up to a certain speed / powerband or else it doesnt run good. but this can also be due to the fact that the 47r has such a large carburetor, i believe it uses a 16.67mm venturi, not sure on the bore sizes though. but yeh, i would have to take this into consideration if i do the g43 setup as this would affect performance a lot, i only skimmed that other thread a few times so im gonna go read it more thoroughly with better understanding later on.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SJ View Post
              These are just some of the motors that will fit and work on an early style BigBoy or V-5, BladeZ, Tanaka Paverunner or EVO2 and 2X scooters that use a 78 mm clutch mount.

              Left to Right....
              1. Active 57cc 4-port with TS head kit
              2. Tanaka 47 cc
              3. Tanaka 40 cc
              4. G43L
              5. Tanaka ??? possibley a 33 cc.
              6. Mistubishi 43
              7. HONDA 31 cc 4-stroke
              the TL43 ( mistubishi ) its the exact case for the TL52. cyl, piston and ring, wrist pin and bearing. pretty much any 78mm clutch engine will go in.

              sj your right there are a huge amount of factors to count for to get speed, so i used my exp with what did playing with gearing And tire size. never had the chance to ride an active . how are the SJ

              thank you DOH for you kind words

              lol norcal
              as we ride we are free to fly, when we walk gravity chains us down to the world

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jihidi3 View Post
                thanks glyn, i want to still get the reed kit / port work if i get the g43, i want it to be a noticeable improvement from the tanaka 47r that i currently have so its either all or nothing, i dont want to settle for just a pipe and larger carburetor as the whole reason i want to get the g43 is because of how many performance modifications that are readily available ( as of now ) since ddm restocked both the g43 and reed kits, and then il have a nice performing 2 stroke . right now, im doing a top speed of about 30 mph on a tanaka 47r bladez, stock gearing. there is one thing i noticed from one of the posts in gopednation, the thread that said if you wanna run a 60 carb on a gp460, something about the carburetor pop off spring on the hda-48 carburetor making the engine perform boggy at acceleration or lower end speeds / take off, and that you would need to change it to a different one, this, i can relate because the tanaka 47r seemed to do the same as well, you have to gently press the throttle and gradually bring it up to a certain speed / powerband or else it doesnt run good. but this can also be due to the fact that the 47r has such a large carburetor, i believe it uses a 16.67mm venturi, not sure on the bore sizes though. but yeh, i would have to take this into consideration if i do the g43 setup as this would affect performance a lot, i only skimmed that other thread a few times so im gonna go read it more thoroughly with better understanding later on.

                something must be wrong, reason i say that is on my bladez at 195 then with 15t wyk-58 carb, juicebox, ported by "thedog" cyl., a 3" uni filter and a bladez endbleed 3 stage pipe with knobbies no less, i was hitting 38 mph clean. and the 47r is a racing tanaka engine which has more torque and higher rpms. you should be bouncing in the low 40's, the g43 in away is about the se as a 47r.
                as we ride we are free to fly, when we walk gravity chains us down to the world

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by dawman View Post
                  something must be wrong, reason i say that is on my bladez at 195 then with 15t wyk-58 carb, juicebox, ported by "thedog" cyl., a 3" uni filter and a bladez endbleed 3 stage pipe with knobbies no less, i was hitting 38 mph clean. and the 47r is a racing tanaka engine which has more torque and higher rpms. you should be bouncing in the low 40's, the g43 in away is about the se as a 47r.
                  my tuning may be off slightly, but it does run fairly well and only has a little bog on low end which like i mentioned, may be from the pop off spring issue with these carburetors and the carb itself being pretty big for just a 46.5cc engine. there may be also other smaller factors preventing optimum performance and top speed but i dont think there would be a huge difference in top speed, i would say if everything is adjusted within range or close enough, i should be getting about 32 mph or so, after all, they did put the top speeds of these things around there when they made them and i think im getting just around there too, i am suprised though that you hit 38 mph with that setup you just listed. im gonna go give the scooter a test ride tomorrow and see what my top speed will be on flat ground, i weigh about 130 pounds btw.

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                  • #24
                    I just read that thread, I can't figure how you got a temp ban. I'd just like to say welcome back...and any member messing with you in any way here will be applauded until you get mad at which time I will ban you permanently.

                    Sincerely,
                    The Pied Piper of White Trash
                    Lookin for a new goat...mine is wore the hell out!

                    Originally posted by Dirtmonkey
                    Slitz is taken. We'll let you be Clitz.

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                    • #25
                      Ha
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                      • #26
                        well i just came back from the test ride and the gps said 31 mph, again, my tuning may not be perfect and there could also be smaller factors preventing the best top speed and performance, but in my opinion, i think 31 mph is about accurate for a bladez with tanaka 47r / 15 tooth stock gearing. i dont want to mess with the carburetor settings much because the engine runs fine right now and im scared that if i make it leaner, it will affect the reliability and may not change the performance, i have about 2 3/4 on the low and about 1 1/2 on the high. i did notice that the few people that owned tanaka 47r's would have the settings leaner on both so im open to recommendations for this / what other people's settings were and its possible that i may be able to get another mph or so from better tuning and just better overall engine responsiveness, one thing that concerns me on the engine tuning is the idle screw portion and how much would this affect performance. i think it idles fine but my other concern is the relation between the idle screw and low end speed because these two can make the engine run sluggish i suppose if one is not adjusted in proportion to the other, the high end is also a factor because its possible that the low end settings are affecting the top speed / high end settings. so yeh, i guess i will have to experiment more and see what is the best setup, least bog, most responsiveness and check the spark plug for a general idea of how rich or lean the engine is running.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Jihidi3 View Post
                          my tuning may be off slightly, but it does run fairly well and only has a little bog on low end which like i mentioned, may be from the pop off spring issue with these carburetors and the carb itself being pretty big for just a 46.5cc engine. there may be also other smaller factors preventing optimum performance and top speed but i dont think there would be a huge difference in top speed, i would say if everything is adjusted within range or close enough, i should be getting about 32 mph or so, after all, they did put the top speeds of these things around there when they made them and i think im getting just around there too, i am suprised though that you hit 38 mph with that setup you just listed. im gonna go give the scooter a test ride tomorrow and see what my top speed will be on flat ground, i weigh about 130 pounds btw.
                          Factory Setting is 3/4 on the H and 1~1 1/4 on the low

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by GrandpaGlyn View Post
                            Factory Setting is 3/4 on the H and 1~1 1/4 on the low
                            ya, those settings are not gonna work at all, extremely lean. i tried 1 1/4 on the low and 1 on the high, the engine fired for a few seconds, gave it some gas and i immediately knew it was running very lean from how hesistant it was running, shut it off, tried to start it with slightly richer settings, wouldnt start at all, i had to go all the way back to my original settings which were about 1 1/2 on high and about 2 3/4 on the low, worked fine at those settings. the engine actually runs pretty smooth at these settings with almost no bog, i also checked the spark plug tip and it is basically light brown so im pretty sure these settings are adequate. if i were to adjust it for slightly better performance, it would probably be 1/8 - 1/4 more, any more and it would probably affect performance for the worse. i just dismounted the engine btw, getting ready to sell it so i can maybe move on to the g43 setup as my next setup.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jihidi3 View Post
                              you mentioned g43 engine, i was actually gonna use that engine on my next build since ddm stocks them now, and also because there are many performance mods that are readily available for the engine through their site / and port work which i believe chris bartolone would be able to take care of that for me since i want to buy the TS reed kit which is currently in stock at ddm and it would need the porting job for proper use. i dont really want to gear higher, just want to experiment and see how well of a setup i can get with this modified g43 setup using a stock 15 tooth sprocket, consistency is really important too. im expecting to get a top speed of at least 32 mph. specific mod lists would be a new g43 engine, ts reed kit, walbro hda carburetor with a venturi of about 15mm since ddm told me the reed kit entry hole is about 16mm, so i figured a 15mm venturi would be perfect. hp filter, port work, i dont really know much about this but i guess chris bartolone should know exactly what to do for me based on my setup, tanaka 3 piece, bladez 3 stage pipe, or any end bleed pipe that fits on a bladez with little to no modification, black magic clutch spring, and thats pretty much it that i can think of. oh and i forgot about the gas tank portion, im gonna mount the original gas tank that goes with this engine, just like grandpaglyn did on his bladez cruz'r with g43 engine.

                              i currently have a tanaka 47r engine in great condition, i bought it off from someone else who said it only went through a few tanks with the bladez scooter which i bought complete with it, at first when i got it, it appeared to run sluggish and a few days later had backfired a lot and i could not get it to start, i inspected the engine, it had rust on the flywheel magneto a little bit, and a lot on the ignition module leggings, so i cleaned it up a bit using sand paper, used a small flat washer in between fan cover and module, new bolts, i ordered a new base gasket, new muffler gasket, cleaned the top of the piston a little, new fuel filter in gas tank, new pulse line, cleaned the carburetor, new spark plug, put fresh new 91 octane fuel using about a 42:1 gas oil ratio and within a few pulls, the engine fired, came to life, warmed it up and it ran great, and its showing no problems up till now. i fixed it yesterday. im looking to sell this tanaka 47r engine for 250 dollars or best offer shipped or picked up for a little less so i can move on to this g43 setup hopefully.


                              i dont think anyone will buy a tanaka 47cc engine for $250 lol!!!! you can buy a brand new gp460 which is 47cc for $265 good luck selling that hahhaahhahahahahahahahahahaha

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by frankieb View Post

                                i dont think anyone will buy a tanaka 47cc engine for $250 lol!!!! you can buy a brand new gp460 which is 47cc for $265 good luck selling that hahhaahhahahahahahahahahahaha
                                Offer him a couple virgin goats, he'll have his pants down before you can drop the tailgate.
                                GTR 460, GSR40 TSi, GSR40, Riot, Bigfoot, Sport, SGQ46, Evo 2X, Super GrowPed, TRQ....OHH YEAH!

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